Saturday, December 13, 2008

Hopefully more bunnies on the way...

Well Oscar truly is back! Just ask Joy, who is happily contemplating motherhood. I just hope she's better at it this time around. Sunrise was not so eager, I put her in with Oscar instead of Crosby, because I want to see if Oscar carries chocolate or not. Well, Sunrise wanted nothing of it. So, I'll give her more time and try again in a month. Likewise, her daughter Cadbury was not thrilled with Nino. Time will tell if that breeding took. She was somewhat more cooperative than last month, so maybe. Donna was all over Garritt like a wet puppy. I don't think Garritt ever truly connected, tho'. Why do rabbits only multiply like rabbits when you don't want them to?

So far, the Purina Fibre3 is working out well. I do think I'm seeing a bit more soft stools because of the slightly higher protein level. I'm also supplementing with Calf-Manna now, just a little, not quite a teaspoon. I was using Pen Pal's ShowBoost, but I became concerned with high kit mortality. I don't know why I suddenly saw so much bad mothering and lack of milk coming in, but the only thing that had changed back then was the supplement. I had awesome coats, but fewer babies that made it. So, when I changed feeds over, I also changed supplements. Maybe it will make a difference, maybe it won't.

Donna's coat right now is just stunning. The density on this doe is just amazing. If I can just get some babies from her...!!!

Monday, December 08, 2008

Clinton, Gore, Babbitt Gang Taking Over Obama Natural Resources

Land Rights Network

American Land Rights Association

PO Box 400 - Battle Ground, WA 98604

Phone: 360-687-3087 - Fax: 360-687-2973


Web Address:

Legislative Office: 507 Seward Square SE - Washington, DC 20003

Clinton, Gore, Babbitt Gang Taking Over Obama Natural Resources

Obama prepares to finish Babbitt’s “War on the West.”

Rural America in grave danger!!

Please forward this message as widely as possible—quickly!

-----Draft of Environmental Organization Transition Plan For Obama

Administration Can Be Found At

Omnibus Bill Report below.

-----Special Note: This plan is the Environmental Group outline for the next four to eight years of the Obama Administration for the Natural Resources part of the Government. Interior, Agriculture, Corps of Engineers, Environmental Protection Agency, Council on Environmental Quality and others.

The change you've been waiting for is just about to arrive.

And on Federal lands and property rights issues, the change looks like a return to the bad old days of Bill Clinton and Bruce Babbitt's War on the West.

Leading the Obama transition team for the Interior Department are David Hayes and John Leshy. Hayes was Deputy Secretary of the Interior under Secretary Babbitt in the Clinton Administration.

Hayes now works for the World Wildlife Fund. Leshy was Solicitor General of the Interior Department under Babbitt. Leshy has spent his whole career trying to get natural resource producers, especially small miners, off Federal lands.

Both Hayes and Leshy have been mentioned as on the list to be Obama's choice for Interior Secretary. Incredibly, some of the other names being mentioned are even worse. Most of them served in the Clinton Administration and most of them have worked for one of the radical preservationist groups.

-----Think back to what those years--1993 to 2001--were like when Clinton and Babbitt were waging their War on the West.

----- (Remember that now both the House and Senate are controlled by the Democrats, who are generally not supportive of you. In the 90’s Clinton had a Republican Senate and House during some of his term that provided some check and balance. The danger today to you is much greater with the Democrats in complete charge of the Presidency, House and Senate.)

During the Clinton years ----

Logging stopped in our National Forests;

Grazing permittees harassed and arrested;

Huge areas closed to entry under the General Mining Law;

Trails closed to off-roaders and snow-mobilers;

Thousands of miles of roads closed by the Roadless Rule;

Inholders were denied access to their own property and under threat of massive land acquisition; and

Hundreds of species were listed as endangered under the ESA.

Now, the same people who gave us the Roadless Rule are getting ready to come back. They didn't get everything locked up and closed down during the eight Clinton years largely because the Republicans won control of the House and Senate. But now Nancy Pelosi is Speaker of the House and Harry Reid is Senate Majority Leader.

The radical preservationists that staffed Babbitt's Interior Department want to finish what they started.

Lock it up.

Close it down.

No natural resource production allowed.

Recreation and hunting prohibited on millions of more acres.

Huge new Wilderness Areas.

Hundreds and hundreds more endangered species listings.

Even widespread condemnation of private inholdings is on their agenda.

The 26,000,000 acre National Landscape Conservation System (NLCS) is a first class example of what they are going to try to do nationally.

Here's what you need to do to stop the second War on the West.

Deluge your Senators office (For the New Congress) to urge them not to approve John Leshy, David Hayes or any other Babbitt Interior Department Alumni as Secretary of Interior. You do not want to have to fight for survival in a new Obama War On The West.

Call any Senator at (202) 224-3121.

Ask for their e-mail and/or fax number. Send them a letter opposing the new War On The West.

You must act quickly.

-----Urgent Action Required --

------You successfully defeated the giant Omnibus Federal Land Grab Bill.

But Senator Harry Reid (D-NV) Senate Majority Leader, promises that it will be high if not first on his agenda in the new Congress.

-----You must be all over your Senators like a cheap suit by phone, fax and e-mail to head of this terrible land grab. Call Any Senator at (202) 224-3121.

Chuck Cushman

Executive Director


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Thursday, December 04, 2008

Bunnies come, and bunnies go

It's hard losing a litter. :(

JG's Sunrise was bred to JG's Crosby, and delivered 7 babies today while I was at work. Sunrise is my most experienced doe, and I have never had a problem with her. Until now. She failed to pull enough wool, and her babies froze. I had one I almost revived, he was moving, but he just didn't have enough in him. A couple of the babies had been fed, that much was obvious. :(

Of the 7 babies, all were Tan (which tells me Crosby must be homozygous for Tan, because Sunrise is not). 1 black, 2 blue, 1 chocolate and 3 lilac. I FINALLY get lilac tans, and this happens. I could just cry.

So, if at first you don't succeed, try, try again. I'll give her a few days and breed her back to Crosby. I want those lilac tans! I'll also move her inside.

Sunday, November 30, 2008

The MOM song

A fellow rabbit breeder sent this to me, and it is WAY too good not to share! Enjoy!

Friday, November 28, 2008

The teflon President-Elect

This is so good, I had to post it. Obama supporters especially need to read this, and just in case you think this is anti-Obama, you're wrong. Obama is learning. I am actually getting a glimmer of hope that he may yet be a good president and not a puppet. We'll see.

The Teflon President-Elect
Larry Elder
Thursday, November 27, 2008

"How long do you think it will take for the press to turn on Obama?" a friend asked.

"Eight years, if he's in that long," I told him. "Doesn't matter what happens. Either they'll blame Bush or 'circumstances beyond Obama's control' while writing articles about how heroically Obama handles them." It's already started.

Take President-elect Barack Obama's campaign narrative: a) Bush/McCain deregulation created our problems; b) the policies of President Clinton brought success and shared prosperity, c) President Bush's tax cuts unfairly enriched the rich, d) Obama intends to end posthaste the Iraq war, which "never should have been authorized and never should have been waged," and e) through Gitmo/unlawful wiretaps/illegal interrogation procedures, Bush "shredded" the Constitution.

Let's review.

Ever heard of the Glass-Steagall Act? President Franklin Delano Roosevelt, whose New Deal policies Obama wants to mirror, signed it into law to prevent commercial banks from engaging in investment banking. Investment banking, the kind of work done by Wall Street titans such as Lehman Brothers and Bear Stearns, raises money to package and sell securities such as the now-discredited "toxic" mortgage and mortgage-backed derivatives. Clinton, with the backing of many Republicans, allowed the banking/investment wall to fall by signing the 1999 Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, repealing a large part of the Glass-Steagall Act of 1933. This led to the business model of the now-troubled and recently bailed-out Citigroup, a model impossible but for the repeal of Glass-Steagall.

The Clinton administration, during its waning days, published a paper called "The Clinton Presidency: Historic Economic Growth." It listed among its achievements "Modernizing for the New Economy through Technology and Consensus Deregulation."

Clinton denies -- correctly -- that his deregulation policies caused the current financial meltdown. "I don't see that signing that bill had anything to do with the current crisis," he said. "Indeed, one of the things that has helped stabilize the current situation as much as it has is the purchase of Merrill Lynch by Bank of America, which was much smoother than it would have been if I hadn't signed that bill." Blaming deregulation on the financial crisis ignores a whole chain of events, most notably the decline in housing values. But that didn't stop candidate Obama from screaming "deregulation," even though Clinton deregulated the financial sector more than did Bush.

Candidate Obama maligned the Bush tax cuts for benefiting the rich. But President-elect Obama now intends to retain all the tax cuts, keeping the lower rates on the "rich" until they expire in 2011 -- a far cry from his campaign promises.

What about Bush's "stupid" Iraq war?

Obama now wants Bush's secretary of defense, Robert Gates, to stay. Huh? Gates supported the successful surge and the change in counterinsurgent strategy. Sen. Obama opposed the surge, attempted to stop it, and predicted failure. Candidate Obama promised to have combat troops out within a year or 16 months of his administration, but President Bush and the Iraqi government now tentatively agree to have all troops out by 2011, a timetable unfathomable but for Bush's courageous and ultimately successful decision to surge.

What about the Guantanamo Bay detainees, the "evil" interrogation techniques and "unlawful" wiretaps?

Obama -- actually faced with governing -- seems now to understand the complex legal questions Bush grappled with. Gitmo contains some really, really bad people, and Obama's security advisers now appreciate the complex legal and logistical problems. Where to move the detainees? Moving them onto American soil creates a possible target for terror attacks. And what legal rights and procedures apply in moving the detainees to America? As for the Bush surveillance program -- which allegedly "shredded" the Constitution -- Team Obama signals an intention to retain many, if not most, of these "dreaded" policies.

Eric Holder, Obama's choice for attorney general, served as deputy attorney general in the Clinton administration. He agreed with Bush on a very important policy -- one opposed by liberal icons like Al Gore. Holder, in a 2002 interview, agreed that terrorists must be interrogated so we can learn information on their cells or future plans, and that the Geneva Conventions limited the amount of information interrogators could get. Clearly they were not prisoners of war, said Holder, and were, therefore, not covered by the protections of the Geneva Conventions. However, argued Holder, if we want our own prisoners treated well, we should treat the detainees very humanely and in a manner consistent with the Geneva Conventions -- a position that Bush ultimately came to.

So where does this leave us?

Bush wasn't so evil after all. And running for and governing as president are two different things. But don't expect the Obama-loving media to notice or care.

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Sunday, November 23, 2008

Purina Fibre3...

... Is my new rabbit food. You can get more information on it here:

It smells great, the bunns like it, and it has a small pellet, perfect for young rabbits. It is also a fixed-formula pellet, which I insist upon. None of that "forage products" stuff. No corn.

However, it isn't cheap. $13.99 per 50# bag. I know, it could be worse. But I got a better deal with Blue Seal.

Oscar continues to do well, he's back to his lovable self. I don't know if he'll ever have quite the great condition that he used to, his backbone is still kinda prominent, but he is lively and happy, so I'm happy. The week after Thanksgiving he'll get his chance with Joy again.

So everyone is clipped down and growing new coats. I have a nice young French buck, courtesy of Celtic Hare, who has very nice depth and texture. Why do I have a French angora in my rabbitry? Why, to see if Donna carries chocolate. Garritt is a lilac tort, heavily line bred, and no albino in his background, nor have any popped up in related litters. I wanted a non-albino carrier so that I could properly evaluate Donna's genes without wondering what the white bunnies were underneath. Tort Giants or Germans who don't have a REW parent are very hard to find! Being the most recesive color, Garritt's babies will reflect the dam's genes. Here's hoping Donna has a chocolate gene! Of course, this means I'll have some super wooler bunnies available in the Spring. :) Whether or not she does carry chocolate, her next breeding will be to Nino. He was her original date, but I need to find out which, if any, of my purebreds carries chocolate. So, Nino is being paired with Cadbury. Oscar would have been bred to Sunrise, who carries chocolate but not albino, but he was ill. So Sunrise was bred to Crosby instead. This breeding will tell me whether Crosby is homozygous for Tan. So hopefully before the end of the year, I'll know what most of my purebreds carry - or don't. :)

Sunday, November 16, 2008

All is well!

Oscar is eating normally again. :) At one point, he was eating nothing except what I could spoon into him, then a few days ago he was up to 2 cups, but he must be feeling back to his old self, he's cut back to a cup and a half, plus a big handful of hay every morning. He's filled out noticeably, I almost can't tell anything was ever wrong with him. I'm going to try breeding him with Joy, but I may take them both for a car ride first.

I honestly never thought this day would come. When I came back from Convention he was skeletal, he lay limp in my arms with is head screwed around into his side, he had pus coming out of his nose, and he had given up. I thank God for this miracle!!!

Monday, November 10, 2008

Oscar update

It has been touch-and-go, but Oscar is eating, and I switched him back to a water bottle rather than a bowl, and he is doing fine. He's still skinny, and not eating as much as I'd like, but he is eating, drinking, pooping, and peeing. :)

If all goes well, I'll try breeding hm again soon. :)

Louis had gone off-feed after I sheared him at Convention, he's back to eating like a horse. I tried breeding him to Joy, but she'd have nothing of it. She loves Oscar, so we'll try him when he gets more of his strength back. Louis has a couple of half-sisters who will be ready in early Spring, so he'll have his chance. Although I really do want a litter from him with Joy someday...

Meanwhile, my favorite feed store is closing, so good-bye Blue Seal. :( I'll have to switch to Purina, as there is a dealer right here in town, and he's ordering Fibre3 for me. The bunns ate it well at Convention, so the switch shouldn't be too hard.

Saturday, November 01, 2008

Some parting election thoughts...

This soldier speaks his mind:

In addition to that, I have serious doubts about Senator Obama, for the following reasons:

Much as I'd like to see the US with a black President,

I cannot bring myself to vote for someone who cannot or will not provide his birth certificate:

I cannot bring myself to vote for someone who attends a racist church for 20 YEARS and then claims to not believe what the pastor believes. Yeah, right!

I cannot bring myself to vote for a man who is married to a woman who is "finally" proud of this country, and who wrote this:

Her thesis and the church they attended for 20 years tells a lot more about their true feelings about this country than any campaign promise.

I cannot bring myself to vote for someone who blames the previous administration for the price of gasoline, instead of the the (long awaited, encouraged, and anticipated) true cause, the success of capitalism in China and their resultant increased demand for energy.

I cannot bring myself to vote for someone who blames the previous adminstration for the mortgage crisis, while ignoring 1) his own, ACORN's, and his party's lawsuits against the mortgage industry for not giving out enough high-risk loans to people who can't afford a mortgage and should never have gotten one, and 2) the efforts of this administration to put the brakes on this crisis (which he voted against!):

I used to be a proud Democrat, but the party has fallen far from what it was, reflected in JFK's statement, "Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country."

Today's Democrats are nothing but closet Socialists who think that the government should be anything and everything to everyone. Socialism does not work. If you want to live under a Socialist .gov, then please move to Eurpoe and LEAVE MY COUNTRY ALONE!

Please do not vote for Obama! If you don't want to vote fr McCain, fine, but vote for anyone but Obama! His record in the Senate (when he even bothered to actually vote) does not reflect what he says.

Actions speak louder that words, folks, and this man will say anything to get elected, even if it flies in the face of every vote he has ever cast, and if elected, with a Democratic Congress, he'll be free to do as he pleases, taking our hard-earned money and "spreading the wealth around".

If you want to spread your wealth to people who don't deserve it, fine, but keep your hands off of mine!

Bear in mind - it is far easier to remedy mistakes of the past than it is to correct mistakes in current reasoning. OBAMA has the chance to appoint 4 or 5 Supreme Court Justices. Do you understand the ramifications of that? Do you understand that the US is the last bastion on free thought in the modern world? I'm not kidding, it truly is. Do you believe that people should have the right to govern themselves? Do you believe that you can make the best decisions for yourself and your family? If so, vote for the people (McCain/Palin) who trust you, rather than the people who think they can spend your hard-earned money better than you can.

Friday, October 31, 2008

2008 ARBA Convention

I'm BB-AA-CC-KK ! The top pics are of some Giant Angora juniors, and the bottom pic is of the BOB senior buck.

JG's King Louis won his class - Intermediate Bucks. There was only one other rabbit in his class, but unlike Louis, that buck wasn't blowing his coat, so I feel fortunate that he did that well. The judge loved his body. The owner of the other intermediate buck bought JG's King George, Louis' half-brother. I also sold JG's Queen Victoria, George's sister, to my good friend Dustin. These are all descendants of King's Pewter, my fuzzy French Lop doe.

Meanwhile, Oscar is not doing well. I had shorn his top half a couple of weeks ago, and right before I left for Convention, I finished up his legs and tummy. He promptly went off feed, and continued while I was away. Bob did what he could, giving him papaya tablets and Quaker oats, but he was in bad shape when I got home. He appears to have developed wry neck and pneumonia. I have given him two shots of penicillin, one dose of ivermectin, and the wry neck has dissipated and he is on his feet again, but still not eating or drinking. I am giving him fluids with an eye dropper and spooning cooked oatmeal into him. Please say a prayer for him.

Wednesday, October 15, 2008

Redistribution of wealth...

... is what Socialism is all about (although it always seems to wind up in .gov officials' hands and not the citizenry's) and it is, in his own words, what OBAMA is all about, too.

I am not surprised, but then I don't rely on the standard news media for my information. If you don't research what they say, you deserve what you get. Unfortunately, you saddle me with your choice, too. :<

One thing that astounds me is how free OBAMA wants to be with our money, yet he can't or won't "lift" his own brother out of poverty. Seems to me he should tend to his own before telling the rest of us that he can distribute our hard-earned wealth better than we can:

OBAMA misrepresents the current financial situation of this country and how we got there, and yet thinks he can tax us out of it. Amazing. I don't understand how anyone would vote for him over Hillary, and even less why any logical, educated person would vote for him over McCain (although I'm not all that crazy about mcCain, either).

But, when you don't question his ads or the media's favoritism and even outright lies about the economy and this administration, I guess he looks pretty good. Style over substance.

Oh, my aching back!

It was a busy weekend of grooming, shearing, and cleaning. All the bunny poop is out from under the cages and in the garden, where it will nourish next year's tomatoes, peppers, onions, garlic, and PUMPKIN. :D

Louis was groomed within an inch of his life, lol! This weekend he and the others will get more of the same. Everyone is looking pretty good right now. Big coats drive me nuts, though, I want so badly to get those coats off and BREED those bunns! They'd be happy with that as well, lol!

I'll be sure to get pics of them at Convention, when they are all groomed out and looking their best. As soon as judging is over, off those coats will come, and next month - BABIES!!! :D

Joy will be permanently retired after Convention. She has earned her 3 legs, if I registered her she'd be a Grand Champion. Louis will be aimed at Nationals in the Spring, and then he will be retired as well. Their babies will make up my next show string.

I've downsized a great deal, and may downsize some more. I even though of giving up on the Tans, until I sheared this young lady:

This is JG's Cadbury, a chocolate otter doe, who gave me 8 ounces of prime at 7 months of age. Yep, I think i'm hanging onto her a while longer. :) She has a date coming up with Nino to see if he carries chocolate.

Talk to you after Convention!

Thursday, October 09, 2008

In another false attack...

... Sorry for all the politics, but as usual, the Republicans are doing a sucky job of getting the truth out, so somebody's gotta do it...

McCain Health Plan Puts Families in Charge: In another desperate attack, Barack Obama and Joe Biden have said that McCain health care tax credits to help families buy coverage "will go straight to the insurance company." Here is what they fail to mention – the credit goes to the insurance company that the American family chooses to get coverage from, anywhere in the nation. The power of choice lies with the family – not government bureaucrats or insurance companies. Ridiculing this line of strange attack, The Associated Press stated, "Of course it would, because it's meant to pay for insurance. That's like saying money for a car loan will go straight to the car dealer." Furthermore, any additional money left over after purchasing coverage will be controlled by the family in a portable health savings account.

I copied that paragraph from the McCain site. If you are a person who wants the truth on his positions, and not the lies from OBAMA and the 80% Democrat media, please visit his site here:

Social Security and the stock market

OBAMA has an ad out critical of the attempt to allow younger citizens the right to invest part of their Social Security contributions in the Stock Market.

Except, if you see the ad on TV or listen to it on the radio, it leaves certain key facts out - that it was limited to YOUNGER citizens, who can afford more risk, and that it still only allowed them to invest PART of their contributions - the rest would safe (cough, cough) in the .gov coffers (pun intended).

Fact is, this is the best time ever to be investing in the Stock Market. The money you invest now is buying stocks at a fraction of their worth. I wish I had more cash on hand right now. If I did, you bet it would be buyng stocks.

This is the problem I have with OBAMA. He and his campaign deliberatly LIE. Yes, LIE. That and the fact that his platform changes with the polls... was against drilling, now he's all for it... was going to pull the troops from Iraq, not he acknowledges they need to stay a bit longer...

Want to know what OBAMA thinks? Check the polls.

OBAMA is not a leader. OBAMA is a puppet. We need leaders in office.

Tuesday, October 07, 2008

Lawsuit asking OBAMA to prove that he is, indeed, a bona-fide US citizen:

Obama's response:

Why does he not just provide the birth certificate? WHY does OBAMA feel the need to stay discovery?

And about Ayers...

More to come.

Saturday, October 04, 2008

So, I went to the weigh-off today with my giant pumpkin. It weighs 452.5 lbs. :)

I came in 42nd.

This one came in 1st. 1521.5 lbs!

I am going to try to get a seed from the winner. Meanwhile, to make this a rabbit-y post, here is one of the contributors to next year's pumpkin fertilizing efforts:

That is my dear, shy, gentle King Louis. He is precious! :)

Friday, October 03, 2008

A factual video concerning the financial crisis

Watch this video through. Stop and take notes of the sub-titles and Google the subjects it tells you to. There is a lot of information packed into this video, and you owe it to yourself to watch it, check out what it says, and educate yourself about the true nature of the history of our country's current situation.

Once you've done all that, please pass it on to everyone you know, and ask them to do the same.

Wednesday, October 01, 2008

Jasper and the uncooked Yeast Rolls

I got this from a forum I belong to, and I thought you'd all enjoy it.

Don't know who wrote this story but it sure is funny. The more you
read, the harder you'll laugh!!!

Jasper and the Uncooked Yeast Rolls

We have a fox terrier named Jasper. He came to us in the summer of 2001
from the fox terrier rescue program. For those of you who are
unfamiliar with this type of adoption, imagine taking in a 10 year old
child whom you know nothing about and committing to doing your best to
be a good parent.

Like a child, the dog came with his own idiosyncrasies. He will only
sleep on the bed, on top of the covers, nuzzled as close to my face as
he can get without actually performing a French kiss on me. Lest you
think this is a bad case of 'no discipline', I should tell you that
Perry and I tried every means to break him of this habit including
locking him in a separate bedroom for several nights. The new door cost
over $200. But I digress.

Five weeks ago we began remodeling our house. Although the cost of the
project is downright obnoxious, it was 20 years overdue AND it got me
out of cooking Thanksgiving for family, extended family and a lot of
friends that I like more than family most of the time. I was, however,
assigned the task of preparing 124 of my famous yeast dinner rolls for
the two Th anksgiving feasts we did attend. I am still cursing the
electrician for getting the new oven hooked up so quickly. It was the
only appliance in the whole darn house that worked, thus the assignment.

I decided to cook the rolls Wednesday evening and reheat them Thursday
morning. Since the kitchen was freshly painted you can imagine the
odor. Not wanting the rolls to smell like Sherwin William's latex paint
#586, I put the rolls on baking sheets and set them in the living room
to rise for 5 hours. After 3 hours, Perry and I decided to go out to
eat, returning in about an hour.

An hour later the rolls were ready to go in the oven. It was 8:30
p. m.. when I went to the living room to retrieve the pans, much to my
shock one whole pan of 12 rolls was empty. I called out to Jasper and
my worst nightmare became a reality. He literally wobbled over to me.
He looked like a combination of the Pillsbury dough boy and the
Michelin Tire man wrapped up in fur. He groaned when he walked. I swear
even his cheeks were bloated.

I ran to the phone and called our vet. After a few seconds of
uproarious laughter, he told me the dog would probably be okay,
however, I needed to give him Pepto Bismol every 2 hours for the rest
of the night. God only knows why I thought a dog would like Pepto
Bismol any more than my kids did when they were sick. Suffice to say
that by the time we went to bed the dog was black, white and pink. He
was so bloated we had to lift him onto the bed for the night.

Naively thinking the dog would be all better by morning was very stupid
on my part. We arose at 7:30 and as we always do first thing; put the
dog out to relieve himself. Well, the damn dog was as drunk as a sailor
on his first leave. He was running into walls, falling flat on his butt
and most of the time when he was walking, his front half was going one
direction and the other half was either dragging the floor or headed 90
degrees in another direction. He couldn't lift his leg to pee, so he
would just walk and pee at the same time. When he ran down the small
incline in our back yard he couldn't stop himself and nearly ended up
running into the fence. His pupils were dilated and he was as dizzy as
a loon.

I endured another few seconds of laughter from the vet (second call
within 12 hours) before he explained that the yeast had fermented in
his belly and that he was indeed drunk. He assured me that, not unlike
most binges we humans go through, it would wear off after about 4 or 5
hours and to keep giving him Pepto Bismol.

Afraid to leave him by himself in the house, Perry and I loaded him up
and took him with us to my sister's house for the first Thanksgiving
meal of the day. My sister lives outside of Muskogee on a ranch, (10 to
15 minute drive.) Rolls firmly secured in the trunk (124 less the 12 he
ate) and drunk dog leaning from the back seat onto the console of the
car between Perry and I, we took off.

Now I know you probably don't believe that dogs burp, but believe me
when I say that after eating a tray of risen unbaked yeast rolls, DOGS
WILL BURP. These burps were pure Old Charter. They would have matched
or beat any smell in a drunk tank at the police station. But that's not
the worst of it. Now he was beginning to fart and they smelled like
baked rolls. God strike me dead if I am not telling the truth!

We endured this for the entire trip to Karen's, thankful she didn't
live any further away than she did.

Once Jasper was firmly placed in my sister's garage with the door
locked, we finally sat down to enjoy our first Thanksgiving meal of the
day. The dog was the topic of conversation all morning long and
everyone made trips to the garage to witness my drunk dog, each returning
with a tale of Jasper's latest endeavor to walk without running into something.

Of course, as the old adage goes, "what goes in must come out" and
Jasper was no exception. Granted if it had been me that had eaten 12
risen, unbaked yeast rolls, you might as well have put a concrete block
up my behind, but alas a dog's digestive system is quite different from
yours or mine. I discovered this was a mixed blessing when we prepared
to leave Karen's house . Having discovered his "packages" on the garage
floor, we loaded him up in the car so we could hose down the floor.

This was another naive decision on our part.

The blast of water from the hose hit the poop on the floor and the poop
on the floor withstood the blast from the hose. It was like Portland
cement beginning to set up and cure.. We finally tried to remove it with
a shovel. I (for some reason no one else was offering to help) had to
get on my hands and knees with a coarse brush to get the remnants off
of the floor. And as if this wasn't degrading enough, the damn dog in
his drunken state had walked through the poop and left paw prints all
over the garage floor that had to be brushed too.

Well, by this time the dog was sobering up nicely so we took him home
and dropped him off before we left for our second Thanksgiving dinner
at Perry's sister's house. I am happy to report that as of today
(Monday) the dog is back to normal both in size and temperament. He has
had a bath and is no longer tricolor. None the worse for wear I presume.

I am also happy to report that just this evening I found 2 risen unbaked
yeast rolls hidden inside my closet door. It appears he must have come
to his senses after eating 10 of them but decided hiding 2 of them for
later would not be a bad idea.

Now, I'm doing research on the computer as to "How to clean unbaked
dough from the Carpet."

And how was your Day?

Wednesday, September 24, 2008

Changes coming to Ben & Jerry's?

OK, why wasn't this idea around when I had my babies? I could've made a fortune!!!

Monday, September 22, 2008

Washington County show

A good time was had by all. Charlotte Schweikart swept the French Angora classes, and did very well with Jersey Woolies, taking BOB and BOS in show A, and BOS in show B, if I remember correctly. Giant Angora was split, Kathy Taylor took BOB and BOS in show A, and I got BOB (with Joy) and Kathy got BOS in show B. No Satin Angoras were shown, and only 3 English breeders showed, 2 Adult and 1 Youth.

My friends Phill and Judy Osborn earned a BIS with one of my "grandkids" at (I think) the Jersey Shores show. YYAAYY!!!!

Hopefully next weekend I can show at least one of my bucks at Blennerhasset in Marietta, OH. They've needed some work, the humidity has wreaked havoc on everyone's coat but Joy's. Can't wait to get some babies from her!

On another good note, I sheared Donna last weekend and she not only cooperated, she even gave me a bunny kiss. Maybe there's hope for her, afterall. :)

Sunday, September 07, 2008

Pumpkin update

So I tried to get a picture of me and the pumpkin. Those of you who have been in my backyard can appreciate what a challenge that is - I have the patch surrounded by trellised tomatoes and pole beans. So, Bob did his best and got a shot of us through the fence:

The estimated weight is about 450 pounds so far. :)

I spent the weekend at the Endless Mountains Fiber Festival, where I got to see quite a few friends. Endless Mountains is a small event, which is nice and easy on the feet. If you haven't been there, you need to make a point of going, none of the hassles of the huge events, but enough vendors to get what you want and actually be able to SPEND TIME TALKING WITH THEM.

I give it two thumbs up!

Sunday, August 24, 2008

New kid on the block!

The pumpkin is now around 375 pounds. :)

I went to an IAGARB shearing party near Columbus, OH yesterday to pick up this beautiful guy:

Meet Storm Warning Farm's El Nino II. He is a purebred German Angora buck who *might* carry chocolate! His sire, Samson's Danny Boy, produced chocolates. Now, what is even more interesting is, Samson's Donna is Danny Boy's littermate. Can you see the wheels turning in my mind, lol? I'd love to produce a purebred chocolate German Angora!!!

Also, Oscar, Danny Boy, and Donna all share the same sire. Now, suppose the chocolate gene came from him? I have totally changed my mind about a few things regarding my breeding program! I'm going to pursue chocolate with a vengence. :)

I also learned how to properly adjust the blades on my German Red Clippers. I'm going to test them out very soon. I also got to finally meet Nancy Ferron and Joyce Scallorn (Nino's breeder) as well as getting to talk with Susan Wiley again and I also met a nice lady who had traveled 10 1/2 hours just to get there. Her name escapes me at the moment, but I hope to run into her again sometime. All in all, a very worthwhile trip!

Sunday, August 17, 2008

Still growing like crazy!

The pumpkin is still growing like crazy, it is now well over 300 pounds. The picture really doesn't do it justice, it's much more impressive a sight in person. Still, it's behind where it should be. I think the cool nights we've been having, in the 50's, are slowing it down. If it doesn't warm up soon, I am going to try using a blanket and hot water bottles at night. Where is global warming when you need it? Below are also pics of an Aunt Ruby's German Green (green when ripe and yummy!) tomato and a pic of a typical haul from my garden. Mostly green beans and tomatoes, with the occasional pepper.

Saturday, August 09, 2008

Growing like crazy!

The pumpkin is now almost 100" around! It weighs over 200 pounds now, and is gaining 10 - 20 pounds a night. That's a twin sized fitted sheet lying wadded up next to it. I keep it covered to keep the skin soft and pliable, so it is less prone to splitting as it grows.

I've been blanching and freezing green beans and tomatoes by the gallon lately. I just wish I had a bigger yard.

Tomorrow morning I'm going to start moving bunnies around and tattooing and weaning them. Fortunately it's been cool in the mornings, so I'll be able to wear long sleeves and not get hot. Long sleeves are your friend when tattooing bunnies. :)

Saturday, August 02, 2008

Yes, that is the same pumpkin, 5 days later.

And here is one of my hundreds of green tomatoes. :)

I'll have four chestnut babies from Yeungling and Oscar weaned and ready to go in a couple of weeks. They range in color from wild grey to copper. I'll get pictures of them when I tattoo them. I'll also have a chestnut from Antje and Lear available. The rest of the babies are either spoken for, or hanging around for further evaluation.

Sunday, July 27, 2008

Giant Pumpkin

During the hot summer months when I don't show my rabbits, I spend a lot of time in the garden, particularly the pumpkin patch. There's a lot that goes into growing a giant pumpkin. You need to get a soil test done to see what nutrients the soil needs, and amend it accordingly. You want to start your seeds inside and plant your Atlantic Giants in the soil as soon as you can, preferably early May in this part of the country. You need to protect them from frost and warm the soil to get them off to a good start. Once the plants start growing, you need to bury the vines so that they set down more roots, train the secondary vines so they don't overlap, and pinch off tertiary vines as you see them. When the female flowers form you need to protect them from heat, and you hand-pollinate them first thing in the morning before they open (put a baggie on them the night before to make sure nothing gets in them before you do), and then tie them shut. This way you know their pedigree, so to speak. ;) Keep pollinating female flowers as they mature. The one pumpkin you want to keep should ideally be 12 - 16 feet out on the main vine. Once they get basketball sized, you can be pretty sure they won't abort. Once you've picked your keeper, you cull the others and put some kind of protection under the keeper so that moles and other ne'er-do-wells can't attack your pumpkin from underneath. I use heavy, porous landscape fabric with 100 pounds of sand on top of it. The sand enables the pumpkin to slide over the fabric as it grows. You also want to bend the main vine so that the shoulders of your pumpkin don't rub against it as it grows, rubbing will damage both and possibly give fungus or bacteria a foothold. You need to prop the vine up so that it will rise with the pumpkin as it grows. You need to use systemic pesticides and/or spray regularly for pests (I use a homemade garlic and cayenne pepper spray, it works quite well). You need to feed the plant regularly, organic products seem to work best, and feed foliarly as well as drenching the soil. You also need to keep the pumpkin shaded, since the sun will toughen its skin, making it more prone to splitting. I use a twin-size fitted sheet.

It's an awful lot of work for something you aren't going to eat!

Looking at the picture above, realize that the leaf you see is almost two feet across, and I have 2 liter Pepsi bottles full of water (shaded by white cardboard) propping the vine up. That pumpkin has a 52" circumference! It is 15 days old. I'll keep you all posted with its progress. :)

Thursday, July 17, 2008





On July 15th ARBA ballots will be mailed to each voting member for a very important election. When you review the past two years of ARBA leadership, have your concerns been addressed with campaign promises that have been met over that time? Have you been able to directly phone the ARBA President and discuss those issues? Are you noticing a decline in the number of ARBA clubs, membership and show entries in your area? Have your concerns about our ARBA youth contests been addressed? Has the ARBA leadership provided you with positive solutions which will help you? Are you concerned with training new registrars and judges to have the skills to judge your rabbits and cavies? Are you concerned with national, state and local regulations that hinder our industry? Are you concerned about being able to fly your animals to the national convention or your national shows? Are you concerned that options may exist to promote the growth of the rabbit and cavy industry? Are you concerned that an open line of communication must exist between all officers and directors and the membership? Are you concerned about the financial stability of the ARBA at the present time? Are you concerned that the ARBA Constitution and By-Laws are being followed?

If your answer to any of these questions is YES, then perhaps it is time that you consider a vote in a positive direction for our association where people work together for our common goals. Let’s make a change with the only person that is running for the position of ARBA President who has proven their record at a local, state and national level. Let’s make a change with a President who believes in finding positive solutions for the benefit of all of our members. Several years ago, she had a network in place with other small stock breeders who are faced with the same common cause that face us in these changing times.

The person we are speaking about is of course CINDY WICKIZER, Washington for your next ARBA President.

Cindy has been a proven leader in the ARBA for a number of years as the only woman president. Her track record certainly speaks for itself. Please refer to her two full page ads in the May-June, 2008 issue of Domestic Rabbits magazine. We encourage you to also re-read her candidate profile in the same issue.

Cindy Wickizer is a proven leader that is not afraid to explore and try a new idea to strengthen the ARBA in these difficult times.

Cindy has been a proven leader in the ARBA in a variety of positions over the years. She has served as ARBA President. Her track record speaks for itself. Please refer to her two full page ads in the May-June 2008 issue of the Domestic Rabbit magazine. We encourage you to re-read her candidate profile in the same issue. For the past two years, Cindy has traveled gathering ideas which might help us as an association. She continues to raise rabbits. She is not afraid to try new ideas which will help strengthen the association. She knows that our association can make a difference in passing or defeating legislation. We all know that she does not have the power to reduce our fuel bills etc….

Please don’t set your ballot aside, spend that 42 cent stamp and make a change for the betterment of the American Rabbit Breeders Association.



We also ask you to pass this message on to all your rabbit and cavy friends in your address book.

And *I* ask you to also vote for Eric Stewart for Vice President.

Friday, July 11, 2008

A purely political post

Anyone who thinks universal, government-sponsored health care is a good idea needs to watch this video:

Additionally, Germany's state-sponsored medical plan used to be touted as an example of what socialized medicine could be. It has since become a massive budget nightmare, and has been extensively scaled back:,2144,2117345,00.html

If you need a further example that government-sponsored health care is a bad idea, one only needs to look at the Veterans Administration. Regardless of the party in the White House, many veterans get the short shift and languish or even die for lack of care.

If our government can't or won't take care of its own veterans, what makes anyone think the rest of us would fare better?

Please do not vote for a candidate who thinks a bureaucracy can make better decisions than you and your doctor can.

Wednesday, July 09, 2008

It just gets better and better...

OK, I heard back from some more folks regarding the fiasco with the tattoo proposal I submitted to IAGARB. All supportive! And I also got an email from Alexis Woodbury. I will let it speak for itself:

Hello Janet,

I wanted to respond to you since I am the committee member who talked with Mr. Gehr at ARBA. The Standards Committee is aware that many IAGARB members also have memberships in ARBA, and appreciates your interest in participating in both organizations.

I personally am one of those members with dual membership and wanted ARBA's input on showing in both organizations. Most importantly, I felt it was crucial to inquire how IAGARB's tattoo procedure would relate to showing in ARBA. In order to make an informed decision, I requested current information directly from the ARBA.

The conversation with Mr. Gehr was both lengthy and informative. I am pleased to take this opportunity to report more of our discussion, and am confident that it will give you a clearer understanding of the reasons for our decision.

As was reported, and as you are well aware, Mr. Gehr did respond to showing in both organizations by saying rabbits are judged by phenotype. A German Angora or a Giant Angora that has German in its background can be shown as a Giant as long as it fits the ARBA Standard.

After I explained the IAGARB procedure of tattooing the member number in the right ear and the rabbit information in the left ear, Mr. Gehr said ARBA judges check the left ear for the tattoo, and both ears for conditions like ear mites--having a tattoo in the right ear would probably not be an issue, but the decision is left up to the judge's discretion and the judge has the final say.

Mr. Gehr then brought the issue of registering Germans as Giants into the conversation. He went on to discuss where ARBA would have serious concerns, including the concern with trying to register rabbits that have non-recognized breeds in their backgrounds.

He said for most ARBA members, the object of showing their rabbits is winning Best of Breed, Best in Show and Grand Champion. He added that in order to earn the designation of Grand Champion, the rabbit must first win enough leg slips and also be registered which requires the presentation of a pedigree. He stated that if a German Angora were shown as a Giant and won enough leg slips, it still could not be awarded Grand Champion status. If a non-recognized breed appears under any of the generations listed on a rabbit's pedigree, that rabbit can't be registered.

You stated that this last discussion regarding registration should not have had any bearing on your request and may have even clouded it. At the time, I felt it was important to share the entire conversation, including registration, with the Standards Committee as members of both ARBA and IAGARB venture to participate in activities offered by each organization.

Even though ARBA registration was included in our discussion concerning showing in both organizations, it was NOT the basis upon which the committee made a decision regarding your request to use a personal tattoo system on rabbits that are presented for IAGARB registration. What did influence our decision were the following points:

From its inception, IAGARB has been constitutionally mandated to follow as closely as possible procedures set in Germany--not just with breed standard and registration, but with tattooing as well. In Europe a rabbit's ear number can include between 8 to 11 characters. Because rabbit ears are thinner and more sensitive toward the tip of the ear, it was agreed that the potential stress of a long tattoo was too great a burden on one ear.

Over the years, most members have used the German method of tattooing that includes member number and rabbit information. For that reason, and consistency in our registration data base, the decision was made at the 2007 AGM to standardize the IAGARB tattoo procedure to a single system--member number in the right ear and rabbit information in the left. The wisdom of this decision has resulted in policy that benefits all IAGARB members by providing information we all can recognize.

All members are assigned a member number--no one else will be assigned that number. The rabbit information is equally important. Even when a pedigree isn't available, the rabbit's age can be determined from the tattoo. By using this system, all IAGARB members can easily determine the age of the rabbit and the breeder. Since member numbers are listed in the Membership Directory, ALL members can be easily recognized by their member number.

Finally, Mr. Gehr indicated that the IAGARB system of tattooing both ears shouldn't be a problem on ARBA show tables, but you have expressed a recent concern with multiple rabbits tattooed with the same rabbit info. In reviewing all scenarios, it is possible that more than one rabbit on the table could have the same tattoo in the left ear, but if the IAGARB system is properly followed, these rabbits won't have the same tattoo in the right ear, thus preventing any confusion.

Janet, everyone on the Standards Committee appreciated your thoughtful petition as it has allowed us to consider and review procedure as it relates to IAGARB members and their interests. We did take into consideration that you have used your personal tattoo system for a number of years, but in the best interest of IAGARB and all members, we stand by the tattoo procedure as ratified in 2007.

Hopefully this letter will help to clarify any misunderstanding.


Alexis Woodbury

(Read and approved by the Standards Committee)

To which I replied:

Hi Alexis,

Thank you for your input. I just want to further clarify three things:

You stated:

"In reviewing all scenarios, it is possible that more than one rabbit on the table could have the same tattoo in the left ear, but if the IAGARB system is properly followed, these rabbits won't have the same tattoo in the right ear, thus preventing any confusion."

ARBA judges do not look in the right ear for ID purposes. In order for them to know to do so, the exhibitors of the animals would have to instruct them to do so, thus identifying themselves as the animal's owner, and this is frowned upon. ARBA tries to judge animals as anonymously as possible.

You also stated:

"He stated that if a German Angora were shown as a Giant and won enough leg slips, it still could not be awarded Grand Champion status. If a non-recognized breed appears under any of the generations listed on a rabbit's pedigree, that rabbit can't be registered."

This is true. If any recognizable German names are in the three generation pedigree, the animal should not be registered. However, once those animals are in the fourth generation, the issue is solved. At any rate, my reason for showing, at least at this point in time, is not for registering or gaining Grand Championships. Not that that has any bearing on anything. :)

Lastly, I would appreciate it if the next issue of the newsletter had a correction in it stating clearly that the proposal submitted did NOT involve registering Germans as Giants with ARBA.

Thanks again,


Now, some things just scream to be pointed out. First of all, the account of the proposal given in the newsletter said, "The petitioner requested that we make allowances for those people who wish to register their rabbits in both the ARBA and IAGARB systems." This is a clear distortion of my proposal, and belies what Alexis is claiming. Alexis also claims that the discussion of registration with ARBA had no bearing on the decision, yet that is not what the newsletter states. Further, the account in the newsletter is supposedly from the AGM Meeting Minutes. Now, most clubs I have been a member of make the reading of the minutes one of the last things they do before closing the meeting, and they are then voted on. So, everyone at that meeting apparently felt that the account in the minutes is accurate.

Alexis' claim does not jibe with the letter that was (belatedly) sent to me by Leslie and Charlene, either. So who is being honest here?

I also find it curious that IAGARB does buck their "constitutional mandate to follow as closely as possible procedures set in Germany--not just with breed standard and registration, but with tattooing as well" when they want to. As Alexis points out, Germans only use one ear for tattoos, not both.

At any rate, when I have a Giant I want to submit for IAGARB testing, I'll have to use the IAGARB system. Fine, I'll deal with it.

I have to wonder what else they'll come up with.

Sunday, July 06, 2008

Up your nose...

... with a piece of hay!

This is a photo of what I pulled out of a doe's nose this morning. She'd been sneezing, and started producing expectorate out of one nostril, and I was quite worried about her. This is a doe who just turned 4 years old and had never been sick a day in her life. I was about to give her her fourth dose of penicillin, and the fact that she was not improving also alarmed me. Visions of isolating the herd danced through my head. As I got ready to give her the shot, I spied something black sticking out of her nostril. I gently drew it out, and it turned out to be a 4 inch piece of hay! Well, that certainly explained things!

So if you have a solitary bunn who starts sneezing, don't be too quick to write them off.

Thursday, July 03, 2008

Let's clarify a few things

Over the past few days I have thanked quite a few people for their
support. I wish they would have posted their support on the blog, but
oh well. I'm still grateful for it. What surprised me is that only one
IAGARB member bothered to tell me they thought what went on at the
annual meeting was wrong. I have not heard from any other members
of IAGARB, even those whom I contacted directly and asked for their
input, have been dead silent. So I can only assume either they're too
embarrassed to respond, or they're OK with it. If so, they must be
terribly misinformed, and from the correspondence I posted
previously, it's pretty obvious *who* is spreading the disinformation.
Even the information from Rich Gehr was slanted, because obviously
from the answers, the wrong questions were asked. Not because the
questioner had an ulterior motive but because she had the wrong

I was reluctant to address this, because certain people will take this
post as proof positive that they were right, but I feel it necessary to
present the facts, and then I will tell you what I have been doing
these past several years.

So let's start with a history of how the Giant Angora came into being.
The animals approved by ARBA were not purebred Germans, but German
hybrids. Why? Well, because the animals originally presented to ARBA as
"Commercial Angora (German Type)" were purebred Germans, but they were
small, and could easily be confused with English Angoras. Instead of
training judges to determine the difference, ARBA asked Louise Walsh to
improve on the size and change the name. So, she bred in colored French
Lops and Flemish Giants and the resulting hybrids passed the ARBA

Now ARBA does not judge genotype, or the actual genetic code of an
animal, it judge phenotype, or what the rabbit looks like. So, people
who did not have access to Louise's bloodlines went ahead and
registered purebred Germans who fit the standard as Giants. So yes,
Virginia, Germans have been registered as Giants practically from Day
One. And there wasn't a darn thing wrong with it. ARBA did not say Giants
had to have French Lop and Flemish Giant bloodlines in them, they just
had to fit the standard. If you have 3 generations of animals bred to
the ARBA standard for that breed, you can register them as such. So if
you start out with Germans, regardless if they are domestic or
imported, after you have 3 generations of animals that you (or others)
have bred to the Giant standard, you can register them as Giants.
Now Leslie and I had this conversation at Rhinebeck last Fall. We also
discussed my compromise on the tattoo method, and she understood
perfectly that:

1) I wanted it for the purpose of clarity on ARBA SHOW TABLES because
they don't care.

2) I am using my Germans to improve my Giants. I have only ever
registered one Giant, and that was a doe I bought, and who had 2
registered Giant Angora parents. I am not interested in registering
Germans as Giants.

So this is why I was shocked to read what I did in the latest issue of
the IAGARB Newsletter. Mind you, I'd been warned about Leslie, but I
didn't think she had the cahunas to misrepresent my proposal so
blatantly. I wish I had had the finances to attend the annual meeting
and present my proposal myself, if I had, I think it would have gone
quite differently. The Standards Committee still might have reached the
same decision, but at least they would have reached it based on fact
and not fiction.

Now, about my goal to have the first Giant registered with IAGARB.
That's right, my goal is to have the first GIANT registered with
IAGARB, NOT to have the first GERMAN registered with ARBA. And Leslie
knows this, because I distinctly told her I have bought several
bona-fide Giants from several reputable breeders, Louise Walsh being
among them, and bred German into those lines, for the sole purpose of
deflecting any arguments that my Giants aren't truly Giants. But I
digress. I do indeed have purebred Germans, and they have been, so far,
my best performers on the show table and in the nestbox. But I believe
that will change VERY soon. I have some very promising GIANT babies,
some of which will be hitting the show tables this Fall. I have three
distinct bloodlines in my herd right now, one of them pure Giant, one
of them pure German, and one Giant/German hybrids. The Giant/German
hybrids will be registered as Giants as soon as the recognizable German
names are off the pedigree PER ARBA RULES. It is this bloodline from
which I hope to produce a Giant which passes IAGARB's stringent
registration test.

While I'm clarifying things, there is something else I addressed in
this blog once before, and I'll address it again just so there is no
confusion. Contrary to statement made to some people by someone I used
to think was a friend, I have NEVER, EVER falsified a pedigree, or sold
a Giant as a German, or sold a German as a Giant. I have always FULLY
DISCLOSED German heritage in my animals. Ask anyone who has bought
animals from me. There's quite a few, in fact if any of you who have
bought animals from me would chime in with comments, I'd really
appreciate it. Not only have I never falsified a pedigree, I've never
gotten into trouble for it, either, with ANYONE.

I have said in the past, and I'll say it again, if someone buys an
animal *I bred*, and they want to use that animal to improve their
Giants, yes I will, *if asked* provide a pedigree that says that animal
is a Giant Angora, even if the animal is a German or a German hybrid.
How can I do that and not be misrepresenting the animal? Simple,
remember where I referred to ARBA registration policy, "If you have 3
generations of animals bred to the ARBA standard for that breed, you
can register them as such". As long as that animal is bred to the ARBA
registered with ARBA.

Got that?

In addition, *if* I were to use the IAGARB method of tattooing, it
would not in any way prevent me from registering animals as Giants.
ARBA does not have any tattoo system except that a number unique to
that animal be in its left ear, ARBA doen not care what you put in the
right ear, as I said above. As long as there is room somewhere on that
right ear for them to tattoo the registration mark or number, that's
all they care about. So by making the decision they did, the IAGARB
Standards Committee accomplished nothing except to discourage people
who prefer to use the tattoo system they always have from trying to
register their rabbits with IAGARB. Not a very "inclusive" thing to do,
is it?

Now, why haven't I registered any Giants except the one noted above?
Because I keep finding fabulous Germans that I just can't live without,
and I keep using them to improve both my Giants and my Germans. Why do
I show Germans in ARBA shows as Giants? I keep showing my animals
because collecting those Grand Championship legs is proof positive that
I am breeding my animals to the Giant standard. If ARBA ever does
question the heritage of an animal I'm registering, all I have to do is
flash the leg certificates of the animal's ancestors.

Now you may say, but the standards of the 2 breeds are so different!
No, actually, they aren't. Here is a portion of a post I made some time ago about
this very subject:

One of the great things about going to Convention is the opportunity to
meet breeders from other parts of the country and the world. Talking
with Judy Le Marchant from England was informative and a blast! Judy
judges rare breeds over there, and is a very smart cookie. One thing
that really gets her going is the American way of posing rabbits. ARBA
sates clearly how commercial breeds of rabbits should be posed, yet
time after time I see judges smashing the poor things together to get
that round topline. In spite of the fact that most, if not all, of the
standards for these breeds specifically state there should be a
*slight* rise from shoulder to hip, the judges want to see a hemisphere
with ears. In order to get that, you need a rabbit with a longer back,
because you're bending to get that profile, not a shorter back like the
standards specify.

What's this got to do with Germans and Giants? I cannot tell you how
many times I have heard that while the breeds may be similar, " A good
Giant does not make a good German, and a good German does not make a
good Giant." Why? Because supposedly the body type is so different.

First allow me to quote a small part of the Standard of Perfection for
Giant Angoras:

Body--Points 10: The body is to be of commercial type, with good width
and depth, tapering slightly from hindquarters to the shoulders. It is
to be well balanced throughout. The flesh is to be firm and smooth,
over a well nourished body.

Faults-- Rounded, cobby body.
Disqualification from competition-- Short coupled body

Now how does this differ from the IAGARB standard? The general
statement is as follows:

You should aim for a medium-sized rabbit of commercial type, with good
length/depth/width ratio, firm flesh and noticeable furnishings on
head, ears and feet.

A more detailed explanation follows:

The body is of medium length, cylindrical, of good depth and width for

Aahh... *cylindrical*. How do you judge this? You stretch the rabbit
out. I know this because I witnessed a German judging demonstration.
Ever see a Himilayan in a normal pose? They don't look cylindrical at
all until you stretch them. Neither does a German. Stretch a Giant out
like that, they look cylindrical, too.

As I stated on the germanangora list, the difference between the breeds
is not in the animals, it is in the standards for registration, and the
culture of the two groups. German breeders breed primarily for wool
production. They have very strict wool requirements for registration.
Giant breeders breed for wool, too, since more wool means better
showing, but they have very strict weight requirements to meet. Germans
don't. Everything else is pretty much the same.

Even IAGARB admits it cannot tell a Giant from a German. So if you
can't tell the difference, does the difference really exist? I don't
think so.

What do you think?

One final thought I want to leave you with, I am not posting this to disparage Leslie or IAGARB, I simply want people to know the truth of what went down and why. If you don't like what I've written, that's too bad, because it is all true, and I am not one to back down when someone twists my words into something they aren't. 'Nuff said. Please leave a comment. :)